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BrandonWhat OS(es) do you use daily?
I use MacOS X 10.5 Leopard on my Macbook for just about everything, although I have Ubuntu 9.04 and WinXP Pro also installed. I also use my desktop for a few minutes about everyday and it runs Ubuntu 9.04. So my daily OSes: Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Ubuntu 9.04 So what do you guys use on a daily basis?		2009-08-198:57 AM
pharoahRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Xubuntu (I don't know what version this is technically, since I've replaced things in it by using the array.org kernel etc...) Windows XP Pro		2009-08-199:22 AM
ToddRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Windows XP, Debian 5, CentOS 4. I am still a die-hard Windows guy until they invent the ultimate Linux GUI that has all the features I want (e.g. application icons).		2009-08-195:35 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Wow that is a burn :P Application icons? wow I really have been tinkering with ideas of how the ideal OS would work, and what it would do, too bad its over my head coding wise.		2009-08-196:04 PM
ToddRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Every time I look at icons in Nautilus or some file manager the executables don't have icons (just some generic executable icon). Plus you probably wouldn't survive if your OS didn't have an iDock or boomy icons. j/k		2009-08-207:07 AM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Well somewhere there is a collection of .desktop files that contain metadata about applications, like the icon, exe location, category, etc. (well at least in Puppy there is) So if you open it up then you'll have all installed apps with icons. I don't really know why you'd need that though? Your little joke is kind of ironic as M$ is copying the dock in 7, maybe not the fancy animations, but how open apps and shortcuts are just shown as icons together.		2009-08-209:00 AM
ToddRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
I'll have to look in Debian. GNOME just spits out some generic executable icon for any ELF program or EXE file. So Microsoft is copying something... big deal. :-P What's really sad is that they still have 93% market share and Apple has 4-5%.		2009-08-2010:19 AM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Well that's easy to explain, the uneducated public uses Windows, the tides are slowly turning though, we'll see how this Win7 release works out.		2009-08-2012:29 PM
ToddRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Indeed. But if and when Apple's market share increases, more people will be making viruses for Mac OS X.		2009-08-201:44 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
I won't use OS X after this laptop, Which means that when I go to college I'll probably switch, back to Linux or hopefully my own custom OS, that I'm still working out as far as ideas.		2009-08-205:52 PM
ToddRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
But what happens when you need to run a Windows application?		2009-08-207:43 PM
agumaRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Windows Vista. I disabled all the security features, aero, and all the other junky stuff so now it's basically win 95 without much DOS support. lol Oh, and I use puppy sometimes too.		2009-08-207:52 PM
Re:What OS(es) do you use daily?
[b]Brandon wrote:[/b] [quote]I won't use OS X after this laptop, Which means that when I go to college I'll probably switch, back to Linux or hopefully my own custom OS, that I'm still working out as far as ideas.[/quote] Linux is made to be exactly that: your own custom OS. You can customize just about anything. I don't really see what you might need more then linux already offers.		2009-08-208:29 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Linux has no desktop environment that suits my fancy. If Apple would open source system 6, I'd port its DE to linux and it would be about perfect. Its BS to think that I need about 50MB of RAM just for my desktop environment? I think I'm going to have to learn C and work on my own desktop for Linux. Writing my own OS is crazy and too big a project, and would fail, working on Kolibri would be painful and slow, were as using all the man hours the Linux Kernel team have decided to my advantage while implementing my own userland, seems more practical although not easy.		2009-08-209:21 PM
Re:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Maybe there's already something that suits your needs. http://www.fvwm.org/ This one is very configurable. Just about everything can be created with config files and perl.		2009-08-2011:41 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
I'm no noob, I have used fvwm before, and its ok but then you hit the issue that it doesn't integrate nicely in modern distros. (EX: if I install it in Ubuntu the Menus don't match and there is no shutdown) Xorg runs poorly on any integrated chipset I have tried it on, but it occurred to me last night that Puppy Linux works fine, so its cut down X servers seem to be what I need. I strongly agree with this quote from the Haiku OS FAQ: [quote]Why not Linux? Linux-based distributions are a collection of numerous software that do not necessarily follow the same development guidelines and/or goals. This lack of overall vision often results in increased complexity, insufficient integration, and sometimes inefficient solutions, making the use of your computer more complicated than it should actually be. Instead, Haiku aims to be developed under a single unified vision for the whole OS. That, we believe, will enable us to provide a better user experience that is simple and uniform throughout.[/quote] Now I could write an entire OS to try an achieve my goal of a uniform elegant light OS, but Kernel stuff isn't exactly what I find exciting. So I want to use the Linux Kernel and an X Server. This alone gives me a lot, much more than I'd have starting from scratch, but also leaves me with a nice clean slate to work from. My first "mini-project" will be making a Window Manager or forking one to my needs, It will probably take a while, but should get me acquainted with C and is a good starting point.		2009-08-218:18 AM
Re:What OS(es) do you use daily?
In most WM's, you have to create own menu. Usually requires you to edit a config files to tell it what menu item runs what command and what icon, etc. As for shutdown, same as above, you add a menu item that will run the shutdown command. usually it's "shutdown" or "halt -p" depending on your distro. You can even configure it to have the comp shutdown at a certain key press like ctrl+alt+del or something. I'm not here to discourage you or argue, I just think you should explore what already exists before giong through trouble making your own because I'm sure theres something out there that is what you're looking for.		2009-08-215:46 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
I really should make my own distro, I mean I probably could make existing apps work, but I'd need to make the distro from the ground up.		2009-08-216:34 PM
ToddRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
The trouble with making a GUI is compatibility. Like obviously if someone wanted to run Firefox or GIMP on there you'd use the package manager or build it from the source. The problem is writing it with GTK+ since that's what they use.		2009-08-218:41 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
Yeah, I thought of that, I suppose I could whip up a theme for GTK so apps would work decently, but the majority of important apps would have comparable apps make in my toolkit.		2009-08-219:16 PM
Re:What OS(es) do you use daily?
hmm, maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I thought that gtk was just a toolkit for menus, buttons, text boxes, etc.. some WM's use gtk in them but as far as i know, the wm doesn't need to know anything about gtk to run gtk programs as long as the gtk is installed. correct me if im wrong		2009-08-239:25 PM
BrandonRe:What OS(es) do you use daily?
It doesn't, but GTK would need a custom theme so it would look like apps made with my own toolkit.		2009-08-2311:20 PM

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