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trolly

Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
There is updated screen shots. The design has been a little bit modified , and i've completed the icon's drawing Category in the Home screen: [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/home1.jpg[/img] Files in the the Home folder: [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/home2.jpg[/img] The icone Editor [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/iconedit.jpg[/img] The music Editor [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/musedit.jpg[/img] The music Player [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/musplay.jpg[/img]

2009-04-17

4:41 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Wow, this looks really nice. I can't wait for your mext release :).

2009-04-17

4:47 PM

ksr

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Your GUI looks to be of very high quality, I'm with Pharaoh - give us more! :P

2009-04-17

5:59 PM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
A new screen shot: a text editor that i've coded this night durring a couple of hours: [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/textedit.jpg[/img]

2009-04-17

9:07 PM

trolly

Beta version available
You can download the preview beta version at: http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/gui.zip

2009-04-18

6:38 AM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available
Wow, this is amazing! Nice work :).

2009-04-18

9:27 AM

trolly

Re:Beta version available
I'm searching for a name for my gui, it will certainly be a name taked from the nordic mythology what do you think about: [ul] [li]Asgard[/li] [li]Wyrd (pronounce "wired") it's a concept of destiny, standard, "to become", self-considers,...[/li] [/ul]

2009-04-18

10:01 AM

Brandon

Re:Beta version available
Wyrd is cool, I wish I had thought of it.

2009-04-18

10:37 AM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available
Meh. Wyrd looks like it should be "word". Why not name it after Stephen Colbert? He deserves more recognition.

2009-04-18

10:40 AM

Brandon

Re:Beta version available
lol, How about everyone names their next GUI after him in codename :P

2009-04-18

10:47 AM

ksr

Re:Beta version available
Very nice and clean. I know what would make it even cooler - having the icons in the 'iconfile' tab display as the actual icons, like a preview.

2009-04-18

10:48 AM

trolly

Re:Beta version available
i had just this idea , now, the folder "iconfile" show the actual icone. [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/iconview.jpg[/img] i've added 2 special folders: TRASH where the files are moved if you delete it (from the gui), you can restore it, or completly erase it latter the 2n special folder is "APPLICATIONS", he contain links to somme apps. a config tool , to add / removes links in this folder will coming soon you can download the updated version from the same address: http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/gui.zip

2009-04-18

3:24 PM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ... SpreadSheet program
I've now ported the SpreadSheet program (taked from q-step) [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/tinytab.jpg[/img] Updated Download always at the same address http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/gui.zip

2009-04-19

9:56 AM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available ... SpreadSheet program
Does your spreadsheet use formulas? This would be a great place for me to plug little stack based langauges. You could have it interpret stack based formulae. Or, you could expend a lot of effort implementing the shunting yard algorithm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunting_yard_algorithm

2009-04-19

11:03 AM

ksr

Re:Beta version available ... SpreadSheet program
This is very cool. For your information, Pharaoh, the formulae do support infix notation, but I don't think it's complete. I couldn't seem to get the formulae to stick though - for example if I entered '#A1*2' somewhere it would work, but if I changed the value of A1 the formula in my other cell changes to just #A1.

2009-04-19

1:16 PM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ... SpreadSheet program
i've updated the spreadsheet now, if you modify a cell, he will recalculate other cell

2009-04-19

2:42 PM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
many of you will be pleased, i'm working on a QML Viewer he will not support froms and input, he support the most other commands. (embed Txt files, url and download will be donne in the nexts time) [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/qmlview.jpg[/img]

2009-04-19

2:46 PM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
One thing... background color is supposed to extend to the end of a line when the reader hits a | instruction. It looks less choppy that way :).

2009-04-19

3:10 PM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
okey, i've fixed it (for the background color) [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/qmlview2.jpg[/img] note that the menu and the footer are embedded files now, hyperlinks are full supported. for loading files (embedded, or hyperlinks), he use the "catalogued" file system, the writer must use the symbolic name (like in the file selector) you can still download the updated version of the gui at the same address: http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/gui.zip finaly, qml is a good thing :laugh: i'll begin to write docs in qml B)

2009-04-19

5:58 PM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
Wow, first point and click QML reader. You beat me to it :)! Really like your use of the embed tags to make your documentation easier! I also like the way you've underlined your links. One thing, in QML links take on the current foreground color like regular text. That means if you don't put a #1 in front of them they should show up like everything else (without even an underline in other QML readers). Also, the default colors at the top of a page are 7, 0 The recommended method to make a white page is: F0 B15 # : (The F and B tags were added so that when Qbrowse, which doesn't have background color. viewed a page, the #0 text wouldn't be hidden.) EDIT: Brandon, looks like you'd better update that table!

2009-04-19

9:10 PM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
Hi, now ive added the support to load page from internet (thanks to getnet) :laugh: pharaon, i can read your site online B) updated version is online (whitout local docs, but a qml file with 2 links) genet net dont work with dosbox, but if you run the gui from the command line from windows, it will run well

2009-04-19

11:39 PM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
i've added the possibility to bookmark pages B) (updated version available at the usual address)

2009-04-20

5:51 AM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
Do you have any screenshots of how this looks showing pages? GetNet won't work in DosBox, and I can't get the graphics to show up right in NTDVM :(. Sounds cool, though. Maybe you should think about using WGET instead of GetNet. EDIT: You need to read the spec: http://pharoah.xetaspace.net/qbrowse/qml1spec.qml =5 produces a bar made of chr$(5)s, not a bar 5 lines long. URLs in links need to be absolute, relative URLs won't work. &c...

2009-04-20

6:59 AM

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
the address parser in my reader allow to have relative adresse B) (he store the "path of the site", and use it when he find a 'relativ' address) it isn't good? i'll correct the drawing of the horizontal bar

2009-04-20

7:43 AM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
The problem with putting relative URL links on your pages is that no other QML reader will support them correctly, so your pages won't work. I agree that it's a nice feature, though. It's not part of QML because it makes things a bit more difficult and, at the beginning, QML was supposed to be as simple as possible.

2009-04-20

7:48 AM

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
ok, thanks for the info, i'll correct it too. ps: what are the differencies between wget and getnet? (i guess that getnet work with windows) could wget work in dosbox?

2009-04-20

7:55 AM

pharoah

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
There's a version of WGET for Linux and for DOS as well as windows. Also, WGET has more features. It can follow HTTP redirects and things behind the scenes, store cookies, &c...

2009-04-20

8:00 AM

trolly

Re:Beta version available ...QML Viewer
does he run in dosbox?

2009-04-20

8:01 AM

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
He runs in dosbox but not in windows, getnet works in windows but not in dosbox. PS: I use Ubuntu :'(

2009-04-20

8:36 AM

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
He runs in dosbox but not in windows, getnet works in windows but not in dosbox. PS: I use Ubuntu :( I can't use the net

2009-04-20

8:36 AM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
[b]horatio wrote:[/b] [quote]He runs in dosbox but not in windows, getnet works in windows but not in dosbox. PS: I use Ubuntu :( I can't use the net[/quote] ho that's bad, maybe you can install virtualbox and create a virtual machine with windows on it.

2009-04-20

8:55 AM

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Ok, just guide me, it's installed, bu that's it, gtg though zzz

2009-04-20

9:34 AM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
i' cant use network card with dosbox help please

2009-04-20

9:38 AM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Okay... first of all there's a WGET version for windows, but DosBox doesn't let you call windows apps so if you want to try orion with windows WGET you need to use NTDVM to run it. Second, your GUI has no gender, it's an "it", not a "he". Horatio, stop encouraging him :P. EDIT: If you ever want to add forms to your QML reader, the easiest way would probably be to render them "out of page". No QML reader does this right now, but the way it works is that forms look like a link in the page. When someone clicks it, the QML reader asks for input for each of the fields and then submits after it's done. This saves effort on rendering forms. If you ever have them, people will be able to use Q-Step to participate in the QML forum, chat, and update their sites. By the way, IDK if you missed it but there's a piece of blog software I wrote called TinyUpdate that you can use to control your site. There's a link from the Qbrowse QML page.

2009-04-20

10:16 AM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
if i manage to handle forms, ... how can i send POST data? PS: the browser now support bookmarks

2009-04-20

1:33 PM

Brandon

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
You can't, you have to use WGET and attach the form data in variables. You should use WGET, because it works in real DOS, and if your GUI doesn't, it is pointless.

2009-04-20

1:54 PM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
i dont unterstand the method, could you show me an sample?

2009-04-20

2:19 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Well QML doesn't do POST data, all the forms are GET forms. There's a short and sweet section about this in the spec... you should read it and save me the effort of retyping it here :).

2009-04-20

3:31 PM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
have you an html link?

2009-04-20

3:46 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
http://pharoah.xetaspace.net/webview/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpharoah.xetaspace.net%2Fqbrowse%2Fqml1spec.qml Search the page for "[ - GET Form"

2009-04-20

3:50 PM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
i've now made a basic form support it render the textbox (signle-line) and the button INSIDE the page [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/qmlview3.jpg[/img] at the top of the page, you could the info that i've typed in the form

2009-04-20

5:14 PM

ksr

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Nice!!

2009-04-20

5:27 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
1. You need to separate the fields with & (the ampersand), not ; (the semicolon). 2. Strings with special characters need to be URL encoded. Found a french site for you: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/coin.des.experts/reponses/faq9_29.html Sorry I keep being picky... I want everything to work well for your reader :). I really like your form rendering!

2009-04-20

5:38 PM

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
[quote]Second, your GUI has no gender, it's an "it", not a "he". Horatio, stop encouraging him :P.[quote] Anyway, back to the qoute... force of habit when tired.

2009-04-20

6:19 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
WTF?

2009-04-20

6:38 PM

Todd

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
One word: amazing! I had ideas for a point and click QML reader and auto-formatting like you've done trolly but I never got around to it. I have ideas for a QML2 specification since QML doesn't support things like tables. It would be a little like HTML but simpler.

2009-04-20

8:58 PM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
pharoah, thank for your help. now the forms seem to work (it can render and manage up to 3 forms at time, and up to 5 input for each forms) i've made many test on yours textforum lool. i've made a test page on my site, http://q-step.theguiblog.com/qmlsite/index.php it seems to work too. my father tested it and he was very impressed i thinks i've enought worked this last 2 day, i'm a little tired, so i'll take a little break. but comments are welcome

2009-04-20

9:01 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Todd: QML 1.1 has hspans and hpanes, which provide a way to do multi column layouts. The reason you've never seen them is that they're a bit difficult to implement and so no QML reader has any support for them yet except for the one I'm writing. I've decided not to release a new spec until the first one gets fully implemented (with the exception of anchors, I think I'll drop them because they're useless).

2009-04-20

9:15 PM

trolly

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
what the tag for the "autofresh timer"?

2009-04-20

10:36 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Go to spec Search for "refresh". You'll find it is ~ and has 2 different syntax variants.

2009-04-21

7:29 AM

Brandon

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
[quote]I have ideas for a QML2 specification since QML doesn't support things like tables. It would be a little like HTML but simpler.[/quote]Personally I think the offical QML spec is upto Pharaoh, anyone else could fork it, but with a different name. Trolly, do all forms display as a whole line in your browser? In CQML, my browser, forms don't end a line, and the submit button can be on the same line as the inputs, I think it would be best if renderers rendered the same or similarly, to avoid pages being distorted.

2009-04-21

11:46 AM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Theoretically in the spec they're supposed to take up the rest of the line (or the rest of the hpane)... but I have been implementing them in QGET as being 20 spaces or to the end of the line, whichever comes first.

2009-04-21

12:19 PM

Brandon

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Oh, so its CQML that is wrong :P

2009-04-21

1:38 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
I wouldn't worry... It was supposed to be that you could use hpanes if you wanted a smaller field in your page, but since nobody does hpanes whatever is fair game. Just don't make it more than one line long and you're golden.

2009-04-21

4:18 PM

trolly

Re:qmlviewer
qmlviewer is fast donne, i've fixed a lot of bugs. now he download the main page and all embedded files at the beginging of the downloading and store it in memory with xms. i've only a problem with the input: with qb, the command line for the shell could only be up to 124 charachter :( how can i resolve this problem?

2009-04-21

5:22 PM

pharoah

Re:qmlviewer
Are you using the regular INPUT command, or some future library widget?

2009-04-21

5:26 PM

trolly

Re:qmlviewer
the proble has nothing to do with the input method (my own in ths case, i use a text box) but it's a real limitation of qbasic as described in the qb help files, the command line string could not be taller than 124 character :(

2009-04-21

5:41 PM

pharoah

Re:qmlviewer
Hmm... I never knew that. Well, I think you could write the command you want to a temp file and then use > to redirect that to WGET. EDIT: Even better, just use WGET's -i or --input-file= options http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_wget.htm

2009-04-21

5:47 PM

SonicBrit

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
OK For an exercise I decided to try and see if I could write a vb qml viewer, this is what I have so far. [img size=942]http://theguiblog.com/images/fbfiles/images/vbqml.GIF[/img] I'm not handling the background colours all the way, nor links and other things but I figured hey since everyone is doing qml I might as well.

2009-04-21

6:26 PM

Brandon

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Conformist :P Anyways, its a good thing, the bigger quickspace gets, the more people will use CQML :)

2009-04-21

6:34 PM

pharoah

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
Glad to have you joining the club Sonicbrit! One thing, you need to force wrapping to 80 columns. That's about the one necessary thing. (TROLLY, YOU ALSO NEED TO WRAP TO EXACTLY 80 COLUMNS). Also, if you're in Qbasic it won't let you do all 16 background colors. There is a workaround in the "environment" section of the spec, or you could use screen 12 and a font routine. Also, why is your reader displaying the ! tag text? that's metadata :).

2009-04-21

6:50 PM

Re:qmlviewer
ho nice! i did not know that wget could use input files i've made my onw file downloaded in c# that, he work, it small, but it need .NET

2009-04-21

9:07 PM

Re:Updated ScreenShots of my gui in developpment
[b]Pharoah wrote:[/b] [quote]Glad to have you joining the club Sonicbrit! One thing, you need to force wrapping to 80 columns. That's about the one necessary thing. (TROLLY, YOU ALSO NEED TO WRAP TO EXACTLY 80 COLUMNS)..[/quote] i can't, the window is to small :(

2009-04-21

9:10 PM

trolly

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect
I worked very hard to achieve what qmlview render pages almost perfectly, i have made some procedures like AppendText, AppendButton, AppendInput,AppendUrl that append this item to the page frame, and it respect the normal text flow, (no newline if no linebreak found if a text is wider than the viewport it will wrapped only if there is spaces the inputbox folow directy the text that was drawed before [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/qmlview4.jpg[/img] download at http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/gui.zip

2009-04-22

3:26 PM

pharoah

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect
That's really great. I wonder why the header text is only screwy in that one little place. I like how you've done wrapping... you should try the QML-OS thing I recommended to Sonicbrit to see how it renders. I still haven't had luck trying to get this to work on my computer, so I can't :(.

2009-04-22

4:34 PM

trolly

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect ... and a banner editor
i've made a utility to make text banner for qml sites; the banner can be exported to the qml format, and be embedded in the main page [img]http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/qbanner.jpg[/img]

2009-04-22

6:40 PM

Brandon

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect ... and a banner editor
Sweet!! Sure beats Pharaoh's paint app.

2009-04-22

6:44 PM

pharoah

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect ... and a banner editor
Thanks Brandon, I'm sure you've actually tried both of them. Nice app though.

2009-04-22

7:04 PM

Brandon

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect ... and a banner editor
:P I haven't , I was hoping for a witty comeback.

2009-04-22

7:15 PM

pharoah

Re: Qmlview Almost perfect ... and a banner editor
From me? You must have me confused with somebody else.

2009-04-22

7:49 PM

trolly

Re:My gui on progress ... now with online update
there is a new feature, at the start, the system search upates for applications; there is an "Online update" folder, wich contain programs available for update or install, if you open it, the système will automaticaly install it. download at the usual address: http://q-step.theguiblog.com/gui/gui.zip

2009-04-22

11:46 PM

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