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| Todd | HaikuI was looking around the Syllable website and I found that some people confuse it with Haiku, the BeOS clone. Compared to Syllable, it looks like Haiku is a little less featured and harder to install.
Anyone ever try this or much less install this? I might try to get the code and compile it in GCC. | 2009-02-11 | 6:15 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuNope, I've never used it. | 2009-02-11 | 7:43 PM |
| Re:HaikuI wrote a haiku about Haiku :laugh: lol
Haiku's install sucks
It's worse than Fun500
I don't like it much
thank you, thank you. (lol)
but seriously, I've never tried it | 2009-02-11 | 7:51 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuThey just upload the hard drive image. Then I suppose you've got to somehow find magic to compile the darn thing. | 2009-02-11 | 8:22 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Haikulol, Aguma is a little poet. | 2009-02-11 | 8:24 PM |
| Re:HaikuBecause it's early in development, they just provide a VMware image. There's no "installation", just run the image. | 2009-02-13 | 7:43 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuOh. :( I wanted to run it on my laptop for kicks of running a new OS but I guess not. Oh well, back to OSDev. lol | 2009-02-13 | 9:05 PM |
| Re:HaikuI had tried beos personal edition in the past. How it works is you download the hard drive image to your windows os or whatever and the use a bootable floppy to boot from the image thats in your windows os (or linux).
Beos barely worked on my computer. first it wouldn't event boot, so i had to boot with the options of not making bios calls. And when it finally boot, i was left with 640*480 resolution and no color at all, just grey scale. It would not support my graphics card. After hours of pain in the ass, I got the vesa driver to work and could get decent resolution with good color, but the vesa was slow. And getting this shit to work, i somehow messed up the os and the keyboard wouldnt work so it was shitty. I think haiku probably has more support for stuff, but i never tried it.
Anyways, if you dont meet the hardware requirements to run beos, dont even bother unless your willing to spend hours figuring the shit out and probably messing up the system to get a shitty demo of what it can do.
Maybe ill try haiku sometime and see how it works. | 2009-02-14 | 6:05 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuWhat was your video card? | 2009-02-14 | 6:13 PM |
| Re:Haikuuhh its a number nine AGP with 8mb. made by number nine technologies in 1998 or something.
Ive been to the haiku website and they got a hard drive image available for download, not just a vmware image. Maybe ill try it and see how it goes. | 2009-02-14 | 6:43 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuSpeaking of video cards, what's your opinion on ATI? Personally I think AMD makes some pretty efficient hardware (including the CPUs) but I have an ATI Radeon Mobility on my Lifebook B2630. Some OpenGL programs will run for a while but once the graphics card's memory is reached or when the memory starts to build, the program will crash. It crashes with some stupid message about the OpenGL interface DLL for my ATI Radeon. | 2009-02-14 | 10:40 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuThis summer, I sold my Dell Laptop so I had a few hundred dollars, I ended up building a new PC, with a PCIe slot. I figured that a ATi 2400HD 256MB, would be a decent video card, considering the chip speeds were good and it was a modern card. I was wrong!
In Windows, I ran some benchmarks and my grandmas Sempron 3000's integrated video performed better, and the Nvidia 6200 256MB AGP, from my Core 2, was twice as powerful. I also had to turn down the display options in The Sims 2, hardly a GPU monster. I did update the video driver, which helped, but barely.
Linux is also fun, I figured installing the ATi video drivers would be easy (with 2GB RAM and an Athlon 5000, I want Compiz!), but it turned out to be a pain and I never did get it working. Some distros wouldn't even boot, because the video card was unsupported so I got a command line.
My Mobo, a great board, at a super price ($60),Biostar a740g m2+, had ATi video integrated, so I needed a new card.
I ended up with an nVidia 6600 512MB PCIe, which works great with Windows and Linux alike. Although the 6 series is old, I haven't seen any games that won't run on it, and as far as I can tell Linux doesn't really care about what series it is, as long as it has video ram.
Buy nVidia! Oh, and AMD CPUs rock. | 2009-02-15 | 7:45 AM |
| pharoah | Re:HaikuI probably couldn't say if I've used an ATI card for very long. All the PCs I've used have either been sometihng cheap and proprietary or an Nvidia. I do have to say that Nvidias have tended to perform fairly well for me, and I remember having fun with their windows XP control panel which allowed multiple virtual desktops, transparency, and a bunch of other cool features. | 2009-02-17 | 4:24 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuMy ATI doesn't even have control over OpenGL. :P | 2009-02-17 | 4:58 PM |
| aguma | Re:Haikumine sucked but it was great for the time...it was part of the computer i had before the motherboard exploded, the monitor burnt out, the hard drive crashed, and the battery adapter broke simultaneously (well not really simultaneously, but all of that happened) It had 32mb...that's all i remember about it lol
now i have an intel that sucks but still is better than that ati | 2009-02-17 | 7:19 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuIntel can't handle VESA/SVGA too well. It always shows the entire thing distorted and I have to run my SVGA programs in DOSBox.
Motherboard exploded? Or fried? | 2009-02-17 | 7:42 PM |
| Re:Haikulol fried...i exaggerated a bit :P | 2009-02-17 | 10:33 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuI fried a mobo once, I was removing some RAM and it booted on me, killing the mobo and cpu :( It was a really nice Gateway P3 1GHz, with 3 ram slots!!! I still hate myself for that one.
And on the topic of video cards, it had an nVidia 440 MX 32MB AGP, that I still use a lot, mainly in machines I'm messing with, because Intel integrated video is quite bad.
ALWAYS UNPLUG THE POWER CABLE FROM THE PSU, BEFORE ADDING/REMOVING ANYTHING. EVEN IF IT SEEMS LIKE A WASTE OF TIME, I've killed a lot of good stuff. | 2009-02-18 | 8:53 AM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuOne of my Compaq Armada 3500s fried from using it every day straight for 8 months. | 2009-02-18 | 9:16 AM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuIf thats how you kill a computer, most people would have a collection of dead ones :P | 2009-02-18 | 9:19 AM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuThat's how I lay some crappy hardware to rest. | 2009-02-18 | 11:22 AM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuI bet you couldn't "use" a thin client to death, maybe you should try? | 2009-02-18 | 12:25 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuWell I've never had any computer fry on me other than the Compaq Armadas. :P They're okay but I think the Pentium II design is just too much for the mobo to handle. It's an MMC but I don't know if that could've effected it too.
Technically I couldn't use a thin client to death. Those things are just so efficient and really have no parts that could overheat (the older ones anyway).
Would a thin client work for a small web server? Because if I can, I'll set one up for like a small file server through my internet connection. It'd be neat to have, almost like running a real web host. ;) | 2009-02-18 | 2:36 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuYeah, It would work with that, assuming you could fit all you needed on Flash Memory. | 2009-02-18 | 3:09 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuWhat OS did you install on your thin client? I mean if it's Linux, I'll have no problem but something that can interact with sockets will suffice for an OS with networking/internet capabilities. | 2009-02-18 | 3:19 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuI still don't have a CF card and the 32MB that came with it is too limited.
Most clients will run Linux, I just happened to get an old school WinCE 3 one, and it has a very limited BIOS, so it won't run Linux.
I can help you try to find a good one on EBay, if you want. | 2009-02-18 | 3:43 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuSure! Maybe sometime during spring break when I have time, we'll look for one. I can always buy a CF card if it comes with a small one. Windows CE 3? I HATE WIN CE 3! If there's one version of OS that I hate with a deadly passion, it's Windows CE! You can't do anything in it and nothing works on it! Plus they force you to use Word as a text editor. :P | 2009-02-18 | 4:49 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuI was pretty lucky with mine 300MHz,64MB RAM,32MB CF,New for $20, shipping included.
If you are serious about getting one, it will probably take time to find the right one, especially if you want to pay under $50. | 2009-02-18 | 4:56 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuWell I saw some cheap ones around $20 online last week which didn't seem too bad. They were Acers though. They had roughly the same specs but the minor flaw was that they didn't sell the power connector (though I think a 16V A/C adapter would have sufficed). | 2009-02-18 | 5:06 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuMine uses a 12V, I tried another 12V I had lying around one time and the screen went like a magnet was on it after a few mins, I was afraid I killed it.
Acer should be good, really its a fricken thin client, what could go wrong (watch my thin client will fry now :P) | 2009-02-18 | 5:09 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuI've never had any problems with Acer either but that's what I said about Compaq until my first Armada fried. | 2009-02-18 | 7:33 PM |
| Brandon | Re:HaikuHonestly, I'd go for it. I mean you could get an IBM thin client, but you'd pay the same price as 2 Acers. I'd take the 2 Acers and figure that 2 outlives one. | 2009-02-18 | 8:02 PM |
| Todd | Re:HaikuYeah I really don't care what brand I get, just a little pre-purchase buyer's anxiety. I mean it's $20. :P | 2009-02-18 | 8:39 PM |
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