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BrandonPoll
Well most people don't think they sweat a lot. Anyways I'm starting a new series of Polls on recommended GUI hardware. The first question is about what systems a GUI should be made to run on.
2008-09-222:02 PM

ToddRe:Poll
What type of GUI would it be? Like is it something like Fun500 4 or something simpler?
2008-09-222:30 PM

ksrRe:Poll
Personally I wouldn't design for anything less than a Pentium.
2008-09-222:34 PM

ToddRe:Poll
I agree. I personally wouldn't go too far below Pentium I since pre-Pentium computers couldn't even handle graphics modes like 640x480. And there are different variations with the CPUs. There can be a Pentium I - 266 MHz and a Pentium II - 266 MHz. There is also a Pentium I - 133 MHz and several different CPUs with different processing speeds.
2008-09-223:01 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
Hey dumbass, pardon the french, my 286 from 1987 runs 640x480 just fine!
2008-09-224:08 PM

ToddRe:Poll
All I know is when I tried to run a GUI that required 640x480 on my Dad's old Gateway notebook (286) it couldn't handle EGA/VGA graphics. It had a fake mock-up of the original monochrome screen by having an LED light it up from behind. Neat but very primitive.
2008-09-224:44 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
Notebooks are different. LCD technology wasn't as fast as CRTs
2008-09-224:48 PM

ToddRe:Poll
That's the only 286 I ever used. I really never owned or used any machines earlier than a 486 (except for one 386). The LCD was mad slow. It made Etch-a-Sketches look good. lol
2008-09-225:20 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
At least as far as desktops go 386 and 486 hardware is quite similar. Any 386 should support VGA atleast, but it would be slow, this poll isn't about video hardware, its about cpu, what cpu has enough speed, not to cripple the GUI to much.
2008-09-225:38 PM

jasonwoodlandRe:Poll
I would make my GUI for a Pentium, I'm used to the speeds 'nd stuff. My 486 next to me struggles with about everything, I would hate to see my GUIs run on 286. I'm not saying that old sucks, All of my computers are old! :laugh:
2008-09-227:26 PM

ToddRe:Poll
Old never sucks but you just have to know your limitations. Pentium I is perfect though since I can run DOS GUIs great and I can even run Linux WMs on it too. Just a tad slow but still very robust and high-performance.
2008-09-227:38 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
A DOS GUI should run fine a 50MHz and great at 100MHz. Linux at 100Mhz is a joke, at 200 its just barable (RAM is more important with linux at these speeds).
2008-09-228:02 PM

ToddRe:Poll
I got Linux to work at 133 MHz. It worked pretty well. Loading apps took a few seconds longer than on Windows 98 but I can't complain. I got it to run Xine better on Linux than Media Player in Windows. ;)
2008-09-228:54 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
You must have had some ram or it was an old distro, Puppy which is known to be excellent on old hardware was unbarable on my 166 with 32mb ram, although DSL ran OK but runs an old kernel so its really just an old distro in descize.
2008-09-236:51 AM

ToddRe:Poll
It did have 32 MB of RAM and it was somewhat of an old kernel. Plus the WM was not original. The guy who made it made his own which wasn't bad but wasn't that well-translated.
2008-09-237:02 AM

ksrRe:Poll
It depends what you mean by 'run Linux'. If you mean 'run X11', then yeah, you're going to need quite a lot of resources. bash, on the other hand, runs fine at 33MHz :)
2008-09-2312:22 PM

ToddRe:Poll
Yeah the CLI alone runs great on any machine I have but I meant the WM called "Xwin" (not X11).
2008-09-231:40 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
I don't think thats a window manager.
2008-09-235:10 PM

ToddRe:Poll
It's not a popular one nor is it as advanced as X11 and GNOME but it does have decent graphics and file management.
2008-09-236:32 PM

BrandonRe:Poll
find it for me.
2008-09-237:29 PM

ToddRe:Poll
Here's the distro I used: http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/meos/eos024.zip
2008-09-238:01 PM

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